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Fred:

Welcome to Dave & Bacon's Safety Tales. Guess who's back? Back again? Safety tales. Tell a friend. Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back. Anyways, Fred and Dave here with Quad City Safety.

Dave:

Fred, I think you've lost your mind.

Fred:

Well, that's probably the truth, but here at the Quad City Safety. Once again, we are on Linkedin Fred Radunzel and Dave White. I'm on Twitter QCSafetyFred@QCSafetyFred. So, thanks for joining us today for this special episode. We've been up to this podcasting for a couple of months now and we thought if anyone is still sticking with us, that they're the kind of people who can benefit from learning about all other safety related companies and brands who kind of share our mission. If you will, the people and products that are out there making waves in the safety revolution.

Dave:

We've been down in Florida for a couple of days now kind of figuring out 2018, kind of the messages that we want to deliver to you guys. Our goal just is to take everybody on a journey next year. And that journey can be looked as housekeeping or it can be a learning journey but we want to take you through all the hazards and really have discussions on what to do and how to approach them and possible PPE that may be out there. But with that said, let's kind of kick off but I just wanted to let you know what we've been kind of working on there, so as you hear this going forward you kind of become part of our journey.

 Dave:

So, off to the races as usually we kind of start everything with kind of some background stories. So I grew up in scouting and believe it or not, I'm an Eagle Scout and we were in scout around and scout around was like this huge ... It's kind of little bit of a nerd fest, but we get together and we have competitions in booths that you do different crafts or whatever. But for some reason they decided to put me on the paper cutter. One of those big old long kind of machetes tied to a block and some kind of cutting paper.

 Dave:

Needless to say, it started ripping through it and if I remember correctly we were somehow doing something. We were cutting paper because we were making stamps out of potatoes. So you would cut whatever out of the potato and then you would deep the potato into ink and then put it on paper and stuff like that.

Fred:

There'd have to be a better way.

Dave:

Theoretically, but I mean for whatever reason that's what we were doing that day.

Fred:

Russet. An old Russet.

Dave:

Yeah, and not Yukon Dole or anything like that, bigger potatoes, something you put your hands onto, but definitely a tuber. So as I'm slicing down with this machete, whoops, I cut the end of the fingers off. So if you ever notice, Fred, see how one's shorter than the other?

Fred:

Yeah.

Dave:

Yeah, I kind of cut the end of it off and so anybody that's ever kind of cut their finger knows that you kind of bleed out. It doesn't take much of a cut on the end of a finger to really-

Fred:

Make it. You bleed forever until you stop it.

Dave:

So if you can imagine, I'm running around. This is at Fort Knox in Kentucky and we're just running around everywhere trying to find a medic. Direct pressure wasn't really working. I've almost got an arterial bleed, where it's kind of squirting out. Needless to say we finally found a medic, 'cause we're on Fort Knox so we find an army medic. I guess he'd had enough triage training but he's able to bandage it up.

Fred:

And you kinda picture the guy running around in the movies where they usually have a fake hand and they're trying to scare somebody. And so they go to shake their hand and they pull their entire hand off and start shooting out blood and they spray it around and it looks like a murder scene, like Carrie at the end of it.

Dave:

But that was basically me. So I guess looking at that's kind of the story to kind of start off. As putting tools in the wrong hands can sometimes cause first aid or even worse, accidents.

Fred:

Okay, fair enough. So can we talk about another company that you think presents safety information in a way that doesn't suck? That's kinda like how we're trying to do things here. Is there anybody that comes to mind that you think doesn't present their information the same way that everybody else is?

Dave:

I believe that a lot of times live training versus having somebody actually come out and get in front of somebody instead of going, "Okay we have all these VHS and Beta's over in the corner," with a little 3X3 TV. So when we're gonna do our safety training we're gonna put you in front of it, kind of a boring mechanism. So I think that safety training that doesn't suck is human to human and utilizes a lot of props to where if you're doing fall protection training and you're talking about problems with harnesses and what to look for. It's one thing to say it, it's another thing to really sit there and go, "Well here's an item that's damaged, why don't you tell me what's wrong with it?" So you can kind of teach people to kind of have that eye for what they're looking for.

Fred:

Yeah, so, what we've tried to start doing is little short videos that we've done for doing, honestly, the blog that we think is a little bit informational and has some of these tools that people can use. And maybe they can look at that information in a little bit different way and how we're trying to do this podcast that a lot of people aren't doing. So we're kind of presenting information a little bit differently. And I think there are some main-

Dave:

A little bit more real world and practical instead of, I mean, you can read the King James Version of the Bible or you can read the New International. There's a little bit of a difference in how that kind of reads and speaks. It doesn't sound like somebody's reading it in eighth century England.

Fred:

Right. The company that I use that I know that you met with them, that I posted something that they did all the drop test stuff on our website? What was the name of that? Black & Veatch. Right? So, they looked at it a little bit differently. They figured out we had a major hazard for falling objects and so they used the watermelon that they then put on the ground and what is impact of the human skull happen when they're not wearing a hard hat? So they use that tool as a nice, we'll drop a screw and this is what a screw looks like when it hits a watermelon and you're dead. We're gonna drop a hammer and you're entire head is obliterated by a hammer. And so they use a nice visual like that, that I'm sure all their hundreds and hundreds of contractors around and they get to see this screw get dropped, smash a watermelon like Gallagher and-

Dave:

A missile Gallagher.

Fred:

What about Gallagher Two?

Dave:

Gallagher Two?

Fred:

Yeah, so Gallagher-

Dave:

I thought Gallagher was still around.

Fred:

Gallagher is still around.

Dave:

He's still got the Sledge-O-Matic, right?

Fred:

I assume so. I haven't seen much from Gallagher in the past 15 years.

Dave:

I mean that was gonna be one of my dreams is to sit on the front row-

Fred:

[inaudible 00:08:14]. The poncho on?

Dave:

Yeah. Just sort of be rained fruits and vegetables on.

Fred:

So here's a Gallagher fun fact that I don't know if you knew this? When I said Gallagher Two that didn't register to you. So Gallagher had his whole act where he obviously went around smashing watermelons, telling his jokes, but the main thing is that he did that. His brother looked exactly like Gallagher. He looked the same.

Dave:

Is he like a twin?

Fred:

Not a twin brother, but he was his brother. And so he decided, he got pissed off at Gallagher One and he said, "I'm stealing his whole shit. I'm gonna steal the entire act." And he went on tour as Gallagher Two. And so he was able to steal everything that his brother had done, created. Completely stole his act and sold tickets as Gallagher. That'll ruin your day. That'll fracture a brotherly relationship.

Dave:

I did not know that.

Fred:

Yep, and it's seen as Google Gallagher Two sometime. You can kinda read the whole tale. That's the Gallagher tale instead of the Safety Tale.

Dave:

That's probably a more important time, I was watching Gallagher Two and thought it was Gallagher One. I didn't know.

Fred:

Yeah, the whole tale of the Ultimate Warrior in wrestling was like, I don't think it was actually the case, but the real Ultimate Warrior, he died in 1990 and his twin brother came in 'cause he died from steroids and now his twin brother's out there wrestling. But back to our point, using things like that to really inspire our invaluable-

Dave:

Yeah, give some of them a visual. I mean when we're wearing personal protective equipment, we've identified that, man, something bad can happen. It's kinda like you watch baseball players walk out on to a field. Who has the most gear on?

Fred:

Right. The catcher.

Dave:

The catcher. 'Cause there's a higher probability that he has somebody winging a ball at him at 90 miles an hour, so he has his personal protective equipment on. And anybody that's ever seen a catcher they usually have bruises all over them, there's usually somebody slid in and cleated them. They're a hot mess.

Fred:

And to that point, I think it's sure, the catcher can go back and the pitcher's just throwing balls right to his mitt. He might not have to wear all that stuff. He can catch it in his glove, the pitcher comes back, throws another fast ball right to him, he catches it in his glove. But the unexpected is, that pitcher throws one in the dirt. What happens? Or the batter tips it. Or, yeah, someone's running around the bases and they come sliding and barreling right into you.

Dave:

I always like when they foul tip just right into the mask. I mean, I wonder what that ... that's got to scare the crap out of you.

Fred:

There's gotta be CPE involved in that, in that catcher. Or my favorite is when the fat, old umpires back there, and he tips it, bypasses the catcher, goes right over his shoulder, catches the umpire right on the chin piece that just jars it right in his face.

Dave:

You ever wonder if they're just too fat to play and they just said, "I can't make it to first so I'm just gonna stand out at first."

Fred:

I don't know. Yeah, I wanna be the guy or it's always funny, NBA it happens a lot or football where that umpire or referee kind of jogging along and they always trip in the most unathletic way possible. But they're still trying to ref or umpire the game as they're getting up. Safe, safe.

 Fred:

Alright, that's a company, how about some product that kind of came out this year? Is there anything that you think that's kind of innovative more than something else that's happened in the past?

Dave:

I saw on the VERI5000. That was interesting. And, again you can test an anchor point and then you can geolocate it and produce a report. So if you have anchor points within, whether it's construction or even in a facility what better way to have documentation if somebody were to fall. And let's say we have some level of incident, you're gonna wanna make sure that works. And a lot of times you're using an anchor point, hell it could've been installed in the mid '70s or something, who knows what's happened to whatever it's affixed in. Maybe the concretes degraded, maybe the structural steel's not as good. So pull testing those is something that's cool.

 Dave:

With the whole outbreak in the silica space, there's the clean scape, so it's kinda like a powered respirator and it's not a papper, but it actually supplies filtrated air to the wearer. So there's a lot of different things out.

Dave: 

A lot of different coatings for anti-fogs on glasses that are more of an inherent versus a treated. Because historically most of the product that was out there was treated. So by the time they put the treatment on, they put it on the boat, it comes over from China, it sits in their manufactures warehouse, sits in our warehouse and then the end user gets it and doesn't have any anti-fog on it because it's a spray coating or a treatment that works off over time. So there's some new, pretty cool coatings.

 Dave:

FR Clothing.

Fred:

Yeah, that's what I was gonna bring up.

Dave:

Whether it's cut resistant fibers or flame resistant fibers there is new stuff that's getting more protection and getting lighter. NSA has, it looks like Bernie Mac would smoke cigars and hang around basketball games in.

Fred:

Jumpsuit?

Dave:

Yeah, but it's like a 40 cal piece of gear. So there's some really new stuff out there that's cool that, again, if you're using the same old stuff that you did in 1985 you should probably take your Bo and Luke Duke lunch box and throw it out. And go maybe get you a Yeti cooler or something that's gonna work a little bit better for whatever you're trying to do.

Fred:

Maybe even if you drive a car that's older than 2005 maybe you should take a look at that, Dave. I don't know. There's some technology. You might be able to Bluetooth, sync your phone and listen to this podcast in your car. If it was made in the last 15 years.

Dave:

Who knew? Thanks for the poke there.

Fred:

So how about some updates to regulations that kind of happened this year. Why you think they're relevant or geared towards making a better future.

Dave:

Well probably the biggest one is respirable crystalline silica. So we already know that asbestos is out there and anybody that's got a light level of insomnia at 3:00 in the morning has seen the mesothelioma lawsuits, get part of your $10 billion claim or whatever is. Well that's gonna eventually be crystalline silica. Because there's significant data out there that people that are ingesting that stuff or breathing it in their lungs are damaging theirselves, their damaging their lungs. So again, it goes back in to is it acute or is it chronic. This is something that's chronic. So it takes ...

Fred:

So for me, some people that don't know. Sorry to cut you off, but maybe go back to the start on that, kind of what is that dust and what's causing that dust? 'Cause there might not be all of us that know. I mean we're talking, I think it was yesterday seeing somebody that's really grinding this stuff up and they're not wearing shit.

Dave:

I mean you can see it in cup pointing or masonry. You can see it in, hell, an electrician that's let's say he's gotta drill into some prestress concrete floors above him for wire racks or drilling to put conduit in. It could be somebody that's putting concrete in but he needs to cut the concrete. So anytime that we are-

Fred:

It's from grinding or cutting. It's just the dust that's creating ...

Dave:

So we're basically putting the crystalline silica in the air and crystalline silica once it's airborne, doesn't really settle out. It just kind of meanders around. So the proper way to do a lot of it is to have the HEPA filter where it's coming out of or do like a lot of people refer to as a wet cut. So you're driving down the interstate and you see this guy with the world's largest saw cutting concrete, but he's-

Fred:

You see the dust cloud that goes for-

Dave:

You see the dust cloud or you see the guy that's doing a wet cut that actually is putting water on it so it's not getting airborne. But you see a lot of people that are kind of going all cowboys and Indians and breathing that stuff in. I mean they probably go to blow their nose and it look like they just got sick. Just crap all over it. Well, you're breathing silica and it's making it's way through your nose hairs and down into your lungs. And it's just basically like having a cat down there just scratching the shit out of everything. And once it scratches it. it doesn't come back right. It doesn't heal right. It heals with scar tissue and then it does it again so all the good stuff in your lungs, it's absorbing oxygen, is becoming damaged over time.

Fred:

So that's kind of the big one for this year. We talked a little bit in the last episode about kind of the general industry updates that they made to the walking, working surfaces standards. So that's another one that the people can kind of rewind to find out more about that. But I think that one's more of get manufacturing in line with what kind of constructions are even doing. We recognized some of those hazards.

Dave:

And there's still the, it's been out for a little bit but confined space and construction. Making sure that people are trenching and shoring. That they have the same requirement.

Fred:

So we can kind of move on to our dumb ass of the week. And I like to tell them to hit the music so that brings me to mine. I talked about wrestling earlier. Do you every remember the wrestler Ravishing Rick Rude?

Dave:

Yes.

Fred:

Okay, so Ravishing Rick Rude would always wear the extreme tights. The long pants that really accented the junk area.

Dave:

Look like he had a codpiece in it.

Fred:

He'd have the long Fabio hair, but curly. The big porn star mustache. And his little trunks would have whoever he was fighting on it or it would have a sexy woman kind of on his trunks. And he would always, at the very start of it, he'd come in with his music playing, he'd grab the microphone and he's the big heel, so he'll talk to the crowd and he'd always insult everyone in the crowd. So he'd be like, "All you Detroit City, motor head, white trash. What I want you to do is you better grab your girl tight because she's about to see the sexiest man alive." Then he'd put his hands behind his head and start swiveling his hips. Like that's turning anybody on. So, "All you Detroit sweat hogs grab your girls and let them get a peek of the sexiest man alive." And then he'd go, "Hit the music."

 Fred:

And so it's time for the dumb ass of the week, hit the music. It's the dumb ass of the week.

Fred: 

Fictional, fictional name. Let's call this guy Don. Now what Don did was I saw Don on the news. And Don was an anchor for, I think it was CNN, one of the news organizations. Well anyways, there's riots going on. And so there's tear gas going everywhere and Don's out there in the environment. And so what they like to do to be super dramatic, instead of going two miles away we're close enough. You can hear a lot of what's going on. They like to get right up in there. And so Don has his full face respirator on. He's talking into his mic with his respirator on. But I start to notice as a semi-safety professional there's two slots for a cartridge on this respirator and Don's only got one of them on there. So I'm like what is he doing?

Dave:

It's doing nothing for him.

Fred:

If there's a need to wear that, Don's only got the one cartridge attached so he's gonna have some problems here when that tear gas gets to him. And so, all of the sudden, of course, Don starts talking and about a minute in he's interviewing somebody. And, all of the sudden he goes, "oohahaha" and he hands the mic over to somebody else who comes in and continues on with that interview. So Don, gets a dumb ass.

 Fred:

Now Dave, let's give Don some tips on maybe what to look for here to do differently next time.

Dave:

Well Don obviously didn't know or hadn't been trained on how to properly don a respirator. And then all the components. So anytime you're getting ready to put a respirator on, there's a lot of stuff that you need to work through. A lot of people just think that you just go out and you just buy one and throw one on. Well, yeah, you can.

 Dave:

Just make sure that number one is, let's make sure that you are medically able to wear one. So there's a couple different philosophies you should look at. First of all am I not bat shit crazy? Meaning am I gonna put it on and I'm claustrophobic and all the sudden I'm gonna put something on that's gonna trigger some level of a mental switch to go off where we have something bad.

Dave: 

The second part of it is, let's say I've been a chronic smoker whatever or I've been chugging down all that crystalline silica and I've damaged my lungs so I don't have, I don't really have pulmonary function that will support pulling air across the respirator. And I throw one on and have a potential of having some level of a cardiac event because I'm working way too hard. So one, is let's make sure that we can wear it but two, respirators are not, and I repeat, respirators are not and I repeat, respirators are not one size fit all. And they're not one respirator fits all, whether it's gases, particulates, fibers, maybe it's nuisance level odors. There's cartridges for each one of those and there's sizes for each face size type that's out there.

Fred:

I do think that, so for this application, it's a good lesson though for people because-

Dave:

You see it all the time.

Fred:

... in that everybody ... So like Don isn't trained on a respirator because Don doesn't have to wear a respirator on a regular basis. So there's so many that, especially in the construction market, I'm sure in the manufacturing side too. It's I only have to wear this respirator once a month or I don't even have to do this on a regular basis but this application that we're going to is gonna require me to wear this respirator today.

Dave:

Even if they voluntarily wear it, then you still have that obligation. So if you're an employer and you say I don't want to have respirators, so we don't have a respirator program but you have somebody that voluntarily goes, I need it or I want it because I don't agree or believe you, and they put it on, you have some obligations to make sure that all the little goodies that we talked about before are happening.

Fred:

Right and it probably needs to be they're not grabbing Dan's respirator over here or they're not grabbing Bill's respirator and using his stuff that they haven't been fit tested for. Put it over their big, burly beard that's actually not protectable.

Dave:

Or the purchasing agent finds some N95's on Amazon for five dollars because they got a little water damage. But they haven't been fit tested on and show up and throw them on and it's a different manufacturer because they thought they were saving a little bit of money.

Fred:

So Don, you're a dumb ass and whoever gave you that respirator's probably a dumb ass too.

Dave:

Well can you imagine handing somebody a respirator with one cartridge?

Fred:

Or it's got two and they're like, oh I got a back up one.

Dave:

Throw a little duct tape over that. That should be good.

Fred:

What's this hole for? I don't even know. So anyways, alright, so let's move on. We'll kind of comb through our email box for this week. Ask a couple questions. If you guys have questions, please reach out to me. It's Fred@QuadCitySafety. You can get into our social media conversations.

Dave:

So one of things that it's a principle ... Safety requires everybody to be involved. And one thing is, if you see something, say something.

Fred:

Right.

Dave:

And the dumb ass that obviously was wearing that respirator, I'm pretty sure that there probably was somebody that saw him right before he started gagging that was like, "Man, that don't look right." So, I just wanted to throw that caveat on there of, people these are your friends and your employees and unless it's somebody that you secretly want to kill, if you see something, say something.

Fred:

That's super important. We'll move on again. Comb through that email. Like I was saying, reach out to us on any of our social media conversations. So Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn. We're active on there. We will respond. We will answer your questions on the show if you ask them.

 Fred:

So number one. Should we just be using a restraint lanyard inside of a scissor lift? I know that this is a touchy one that I've been asked multiple times. What's kind of the goal there with a scissor lift? Are we trying to keep people in it or are we trying to keep them when they fall out that we're protecting them?

Dave:

Well theoretically a scissor lift by definition you don't necessarily need anything. And when we talk about a scissor lift, a scissor lift is something that goes straight up and down. Well maybe it's a JLG that has an articulating boom. Well that's a completely different animal. So if we're literally going straight up and straight down and we have a guard rail system that goes around the perimeter of that scissor lift and we are doing what we're supposed to do ... A scissor lift is meant to go into the gym, raise that platform up, change the light bulbs and come back down. So if we're not leaning over the guard rail, then we're theoretically okay.

 Dave:

But having that restraint device on keeps you from making that stupid decision where, okay instead of taking the lift down and moving it two feet to get to the end of this light bulb, what happens is Billy leans over the edge and he's kind of almost sitting on the edge of the handrail, but he's 30 feet up. Somehow loses his balance and falls out of it. So restraint is kind of maybe a best practice because typically there's an anchor point in the bottom of most scissor lifts that they can tie to.

Fred:

So if the thing moves side to side and is bouncing, do you have to have something set up then for [inaudible 00:28:49]?

Dave:

If you're in an articulating boom, meaning you're moving outside of just the, how you say, just straight up and down, you're going any level sideways, you need to approach it from a follow rest situation.

Fred:

Okay. Is that something that you work with inside of the ... I guess they'd probably have to have something set up on that lift?

Dave:

Typically the manufacturer of most lifts will have anchor points installed on them. They're usually on the floor.

Fred:

So number two. Does wearing a winter liner inside of another glove affect the protection level? So I think the specific application that I was thinking was like a cut resistant glove and you put a winter liner inside that glove. Or it can be a chemical glove or it could be welding glove. If you put something in to add to it on the inside, does that affect the protecting level of the outer glove?

Dave:

Theoretically that would make it go up. And the whole thing to remember is even your skin has some level of cut resistance. But it has a very low level of cut resistance. So if you add, even a leather driver's glove, don't quote me on this, but I think the numbers that I've seen before on a cowhide leather driver's has about 280 grams of cut resistance. Somewhere around there. So it's not quite an ancy two but it's not a 10 grams of cut resistance, it has half of a one. So it's a level one with that 280 grams of cut resistance.

So if we put a liner inside a cut resistance, we're not really changing the cut resistance or lowering it by doing anything. We might potentially be raising it but the problem that happens is, we may make it more cumbersome to move. So maybe we have to grip something tighter.

Fred:

That's what I was gonna say.

Dave:

You have to think more about what you're doing with it. Let's say we're handling greasy sheet metal and we're out in the cold and we just have an ancy two glove. Well we make it more cumbersome to hold, so we're holding on to it tighter, which is increasing that pressure then theoretically, while you're not changing the cut resistance of the glove ... When you look at the physics of a cut, the physics of a cut are how sharp is the edge and how much pressure is being supplied to that. I mean how many newtons or grams of force are being place on that. And by putting that winter glove on, because we're gonna grip it tighter, so if all the sudden it slips, we've got more pressure there. So we might need a higher cut resistant glove in that example.

Fred:

Right because the glove is probably designed to sit on your skin. And so if you put something inside of that it might slip a little bit.

Dave:

Could slip a little bit, but think about losing that dexterity. You don't have to hold it as tight. A lot of times if you don't feel like you have control of something, you may bear down on it.

Fred:

Okay, number three. Are we required to have a bloodborne pathogen kit on our construction site?

Dave:

Theoretically, yeah. I mean anytime somebody can do the [inaudible 00:32:49] blow chow or whatever. You need to make sure that you're able to clean that up. And when we talk about a bloodborne pathogen's kit, is bloodborne pathogens is not just blood, it's any kind of bodily fluid that's got that potential to infect you with stuff. So you need to make sure the clean up kit has bags to put stuff in. Usually it has gloves, it can have masks or face protection. But just try to make sure that you don't ingest it. And when we say ingest it, it's not like somebody's gonna walk up and pick up vomit and eat it. But somebody might get a little bit on their hand and touch your face and next thing you know you got freaking Ebola or something like that. CDC quarantines you and puts you on a watch list and makes you stay in your basement for three weeks.

Fred:

There's a show that's on Adult Swim. It's the Eric Andre Show. Have you ever heard of that? All their shows on Adult Swim are 15 minute show and then a cartoon that's 15 minutes. So they got it really, really narrowed down for the ADD mind late at night. Well anyways, this guy holds a talk show.

Dave:

A 15 minute talk show?

Fred:

A 15 minute talk show, with an intro. And the people that come on are semi-famous, like Dancing with the Stars level famous most of the time. And the thought, and I think it's got a little bit more notoriety, but the thought was they didn't know what show they were getting on to and so-

Dave:

They kinda trick them in.

Fred:

... and so one of the ones, they come out and they're introduced and talking for a very short time. But the one that I saw was, he's talking to somebody then all of the sudden he gets a look on his face and he just starts vomiting on the table while he's talking to the person. And as he's talking to him, the vomit is just sitting there and he continues on the conversation like he didn't just vomit on the table next to them. And then as he's talking to them, he starts eating his vomit. And just to see their reaction as he's asking them normal questions about their project as he's eating his own vomit that he just put on the table. So that came when you brought up eating vomit. That popped into my brain.

Dave:

I have physically and mentally have never been there. But thank you for taking me through that.

Fred:

You'll have to check it out. So anyways, New Year's resolutions. Depending on when we're listening to this, it's gonna be towards the end of the year or towards the start of next year. So we're working on our Dave & Bacon Safety Tales New Year's resolutions.

 Fred:

Number one for me is, you gotta figure out this God damn audio. Some of the episodes, one of us will be a little quieter, will be a little louder. So that's on us to hopefully in the New Year-

Dave:

I doubt that we ever get it studio quality, but we're trying to fix some of the fact that it sounds like we're doing it like a garage band recording with the old tape player where you had to mash the play and record to get it laid down. So hopefully we do get that-

Fred:

Figured out in 2018?

Dave:

2018. I'm not sure, what is 2018 the year of?

Fred:

Don't ask me.

Dave:

Okay. I just didn't know from the whole Chinese New Year or whatever.

Fred:

I know the number two thing I had is that we're gonna start trying to include guests on our podcasts. So instead of just listening to us two, hopefully we'll be able to start giving you guys some other people that tell their safety story a little bit. That can continue the conversation. If you have any good suggestions on guests that you would like to hear, definitely shoot that over to us on our social media or reach out to me at Fred@QuadCitySafety.com and let us know somebody that you think might be good for the show.

Dave:

2018 is the Year of the Dog.

Fred:

Year of the Dog?

Dave:

Followed by the boar, by the rat and by the ox.

Fred:

I gotta tell my wife ... I can't tell her it's the Year of the Dog because she'd like to get a dog, another dog.

Dave:

Another dog?

Fred:

Well our dog passed away. We gotta get a new dog.

Dave:

Yeah, a new dog.

Fred:

She'll see a new dog.

Dave:

I hear they're cloning them now. So if you get a dog and just kind of squander away a little bit of it's DNA, you can have the same Fido.

Fred:

Keep it in the freezer? So personally, I'm gonna try and be a little bit more organized this year. I'd also like to plan a family vacation.

Dave:

Where you thinking about going?

Fred:

No idea. I have a two and four year old.

Dave:

It's not really gonna be a vacation for you.

Fred:

No. Something that they can be entertained and doing, but maybe something that's close, we have some family in Colorado. So maybe we'll head up to Colorado and do some hiking where we can leave the kids with some cousins and stuff like that for the day. Try and plan something, 'cause we find ourselves all the sudden, it's you got a kid that's four that's never been on a vacation and I don't want to have a kid that's 15 and never taken a vacation. 'Cause I got to grow up a little bit like that. You look back and you kind of treasure those memories. Some of the best time you had are little experiences that you had when you were a kid. You don't really remember as much, but I played video games for 17 hours straight. You kind of remember when you and the family went to Yosemite and stuff.

Dave:

I can dig that. That's a good plan. Plus I think that from a safety stand point or it's important as take a break and refocus. Again, when we talk about a lot of accidents occurs, oh my God we've been doing the same thing for 20 years and we never stop. We become complacent, we become brain dead to what's going on around us.

Fred:

Yes, you should have some time to unplug and then plug back in. It's everybody's January 1st goal. Drop a few LB's. I got to get back to the gym, get back to my fighting weight and get back to feeling a little bit better when I wake up in the morning.

Dave:

I've been working out but I need eat a couple more salads or push back on the red meat maybe a little bit.

Fred:

Alright, what else? You got anything else?

Dave:

Just to try to maybe slow down a little bit every now and then. That's kind of important.

Fred:

Fair enough. So that's what we're hoping. Why don't you guys let us know what your New Year's safety resolution is. Maybe you got something inside your company, maybe you got something you'd like to see personally for yourself.

Dave:

Yeah, we would love to hear-

Fred:

Hit us up.

Dave:

... new initiatives maybe. Safety needs to be shared. We're working together, we're gonna figure out how to make environments better for everybody. So if you have something that is kick ass thought, why don't you share it with us? We'd love to share-

Fred:

People dropping screws into a watermelon, that's awesome. I haven't seen that before. So if you guys got anything like that, that you could share with us and we can talk about that would be fantastic. I'd love to hear it, I'd love to implement that to tell other people what you're doing.

 Fred:

So as much as we love hanging out with you guys, we gotta get back on the beach here in sunny Florida, right?

Dave:

All good things must come to end though.

Fred:

And by beach, we mean we're gonna have to get in an airplane pretty soon. Head back to-

Dave:

Other than flying over Tampa Bay, I don't think I saw any water.

Fred:

I didn't see much sand. So anyways, thank you guys very much for listening. We really appreciate you giving us the chance to talk about safety in this format. It means an awful lot to us that you take the time to listen to what we have to say and hopefully have some fun with us. We will be back at it again next week with more safety stories. So in the mean time, stay safe, remember to spread some awareness yourself. Leave me some questions at Fred@QuadCitySafety.com, LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook. We are there. Get involved. Don't wait until you lose somebody that you love until to become on advocate for safety. Let's work together to help out some of these safety statistics in 2018. Safety have no quitting time. We'll see you next time. Thanks.

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